House Hearing on White Nationalism and Hate Crimes (April 9, 2019)

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On April 9th, 2019, the House Judiciary Committee held a hearing on “Hate Crimes and the Rise of White Nationalism” in the House of Representatives. See the full 4 hour long video here.

It was over 3 hours long and there was far too much to comment on, though I am tempted to do so. Out of necessity, I will have to breeze over most of it.

For those interested in just the parts where Candace Owens speaks, see;



In his opening remarks, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee Jerry Nadler (Democrat) argued for more censorship on social media.

He strongly implied that the New Zealand mosque shooter was inspired by rhetoric in the USA (implying Candace Owens) & Trump, and in a former video we showed how he too took the shooter’s manifesto out of context, leaving out where he says he is against Trump’s leadership and policies and against conservatism and so on.

He said that Trump’s rhetoric fans the flames of white nationalism whether intentional or not and implied that Trump was indecisive in a time where decisive leadership was needed, seemingly referring to the out of context video in which Trump said that there were bad/good people on both sides in Charlottesville, failing to acknowledge that Trump actually very clearly denounced the racists on the right side.

He said too many things worthy of harsh criticism to dissect, but it seems he and his fellow Democrats were mad that Candace Owens was invited by the Republican side of the aisle and perhaps fearful of what she would say.

He argued that the government did not take domestic terrorism from white nationalists seriously enough and cited the Center for Investigative Reporting analysis of incidents of domestic terrorism from 2008-2016. I have not had time to analyze what he said here.

Ranking member Doug Collins (R-GA) then spoke (beginning at about 6:22 into the hearing), denouncing white nationalism and white supremacy. He goes on to note the sentiment from the Democrat side of the aisle that the Republican side of the aisle harbors white nationalist tendencies and noted the tendency towards supporting antisemitism on the Democrat side of the aisle (Ilhan Omar at least flirts with antisemitism and some, like Cortez, are very vocal in their support of the Women’s March after it has become clear that the leaders are very clearly antisemitic). He notes that white nationalism is antisemitic. He denounces identity politics and identitarianism.

The chairman then introduced the witnesses and swore them in.

Eileen Hershonov who the chairman identifies as the”Sr. vice president of policy of the Anti-Defamation League” began her 5 minutes of testimony at 14:30. She spoke about the mission of the ADL. As anyone could predict, more-or-less said that alt right, white supremacists and polarization is on the rise and that is in part due to candidates and elected officials and she argued that there is more terrorism from these ideologies than from (she implied) Islam. She slandered Gab and 8chan, ignoring that terrorists like the New Zealand mosque shooter and others used Facebook, even streaming their murders on Facebook.

Dr. Mohammad Abu Salha (who the chairman introduced as a “medical professional from North Carolina“) began his testimony at 19:35 noting that his 2 daughters and son-in-law were executed in the Chapel Hill shooting of 2015 about which authorities stated that their “preliminary investigation indicates that the crime was motivated by an ongoing neighbor dispute over parking.” but which some have asked if or stated that it was motivated by islamophobia. Indeed, he argued that islamophobia was the motive. I know far too little about the shooting to know one way or the other. At any rate, he argued that hate crimes were on the rise.

Eva Paterson (“president and co founder of the Equal Justice Society“) began her testimony at 24:54. She invoked slavery and argued that the founding fathers embraced slaver (which I am not sure is entirely true) and otherwise argued that America has been racist through history. She said that the “Southern Strategy was devised to encourage white people to abandon the Democratic party and vote for the GOP”. She then predictably repeated the familiar lies perpetrated widely in the media that Donald Trump called Mexicans rapists (which is incorrect), that he wanted a so-called “Muslim Ban” (also incorrect), that he said that there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville but of course leaving out that he clearly and emphatically denounced the racists there, that he called asylum seekers animals (when he actually called MS-13 animals specifically). She invoked Dylan Roof, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting and the New Zealand mosque shooting.

Neil Potts who was described by the chairman as “public policy director for Facebook” but described by himself as “a director at Facebook with oversight over the development and implementation of Facebook’s community standards which are the rules for what types of content we allow on the platform” began his testimony at 30:10. He claims there is no place for terrorism or hate on Facebook, but many of us know from first hand experience that this is a lie. I have made videos showing that one can express a lot of hate against whites, men, cisgenders, Christians and etc. on Facebook, almost without limit. He claims that hateful ideologies are not allowed on the platform, but this is of course a lie because, for example, they allow Muslims to express the hateful aspects of their religion as I have demonstrated.

Alexandria Walden who says she serves as the “global policy leader for human rights and free expression for Google” began her testimony at 35:14. She discusses the issue of hateful, extremist and illegal content on Youtube and Youtube’s censorship. She says hate speech and violent extremism have no place on youtube, but, as i am sure you can predict by now based on the witnesses so far, she to is being dishonest and hypocritical because there are ISIS videos, and other extremist content on Youtube that they do not seem to care about.

Mort Klein who the chairman described as “national president for the Zionist Organization for America” started his testimony at 40:55. He noted that he has Tourette’s syndrome (to explain his ticks) and that is the child of holocaust survivors and was born in a concentration camp and that many of his family members were murdered by the Nazis. He notes that biases are shared by extremists on the right, left and Islam. He noted that the shooter at the Tree of Life synagogue was a neo-Nazi that “hated white president Trump for not being antisemitic” who “called Jews in the Trump administration a kike infestation” and said that “the New Zealand mosque murderer was a – actually a left wing self described eco-fascist who also published a manifesto praising communist China as the quote, “nation with the closest political and social values to my own””

He says that Jews are the victim of 60% of the religiously motivated hate crimes in America and “the major issue threatening violence against Jews and all Americans which is Muslim antisemitism which is strengthened by significant institutional support and the support of imams is becoming mainstream.”

He notes that his organization do not receive complaints of antisemitism on college campuses perpetrated by neo Nazis or white supremacists but many by Islamists. He held up a chart saying that the ADL found that 49% of Muslims (globally) harbor antisemitic attitudes which is far higher than antisemitism in non Muslims, that in the USA, 34% of Muslims have a high degree of antisemitism vs 14% of the general population. He says that the “16 countries and territories having the highest level of antisemitism were all in the Muslim Middle East. Levels of antisemitism there range from 74-93%. In a recent conference on antisemitism a speaker said 20 years ago the major problem is antisemitism of the far right but it flipped. Now it’s the left and radical Muslims.” He continues along these lines. He said that he was “horrified to see speaker Pelosi leader Hoyer defend representative Omar after her viscous antisemitic remarks and pres – and presidential -” and he was cut off by the chairman banging the gavel about 14 seconds after he was granted 30 seconds.

Candace Owens (described by the chairman as “an American commentator and political activist” serving as the “director for communications at the advocacy group Turning Point USA” ) started at about 47:18. She says that she was the victim of a hate crime in high school which, she says, is something that very few people know about her, “because the media and journalists on the left are not interested in telling the truth about me because I don’t fit the stereotype of what they like to see in black people.” She said she is a Democrat and that she supports the president and that she advocates for things that actually affect the black community.

She noted that her grandfather (who was seated behind her) was subjected to segregation in the South under the Democrats Jim Crow laws and the terrorism of the Democrat terrorists the KKK. She noted that it is incorrect that America is more racist now than then. She says that, “there are more black babies aborted than born alive in cities like New York and you have Democrat governor Andrew Cuomo lighting up buildings to celebrate late term abortions. I could go on and on. My point is that white nationalism does not do any of those things that I just brought up. Democrat polices did. Let me be clear – the hearing today is not about white nationalism or hate crimes. It’s about fear mongering, power and control. It’s a preview of the Democrat 2020 election strategy.” and blame social media “which has disrupted their monopoly on minds” and that they are against voices like hers, against Blexit (the movement of blacks exiting the Democrat party), “looking for the next thing to focus on now that the Russian collusion hoax has fallen apart”.

She says that, “what they won’t tell you about the statistics and the rise of white nationalism is that they simply changed the data set points by widening the definition of hate crimes and upping the number of reporting agencies that are able to report on them. What I mean to say is that they are manipulating the statistics. The goal here is to scare blacks, Hispanics, gays and Muslims into helping them censor dissenting opinions ultimately into regaining control of our countries narrative which they feel that they’ve lost… …if they actually were concerned about white nationalism they would be holding hearings on Antifa, a far left violent white gang who determined one day in Philadelphia in August that I was not fit to sit in a restaurant. They chased me out, they yelled “race traitor” to a group of black and Hispanic police officers who formed a line to protect me from their ongoing assaults. They threw water at me, they threw eggs at me and the leftist media remained silent on it. If they were serious about the rise of hate crimes they may be perhaps be examining themselves and the hate that they drummed up in this country. The bottom line is that white supremacy, racism, white nationalism, words that once held real meaning have now become nothing more than election strategies. Every 4 years, the black community is offered hand outs and fear – handouts and fear. Reparations and white nationalism – this is the Democrat preview.”

She goes on to say, “of course society is not perfected” and that there are “pockets of evil” exist and should be condemned. She said that she “will not pretend to be a victim in this country – I know that makes many people on the left uncomfortable. I want to talk about real issues in black America. I want to talk about real issues in this country and real concerns.”

She concludes with saying the biggest scandal “in American politics is that Democrats have been conning minorities into belief that we are perpetual victims all but ensuring our failure. Racial division and class warfare are central to the Democrat party platform. They need blacks” she continued as the gavel was banged, “to hate whites, the rich to hate the poor and soon enough it will be the tall hating the short.”

Kristen Clarke who described herself as the “president and executive director of the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law” began her testimony at 53:20. She described what her organization has done to combat hate for over half a century which, she says, includes urging Facebook to censor more. She said, “since the FBI began publishing data on hate crimes in 1995 African Americans remain the single group most frequently targeted for hate. How are we fighting back? We successfully disrupted online platforms that promote hate and racial violence, shutting down and obstructing some of the largest hate sites online… …we working with and pushing the tech sector to reform their policies to ensure that they’re not providing a breeding ground for violent white supremacists…

…we need the government to do it’s part… …from the use of a racist expletive to describe African and Caribbean nations and much more this administration’s rhetoric and policies promotes animus against black and brown communities. We also see an FBI diverting resources to investigate so-called black identity extremism all at the expense of combating real hate. Thus it’s not surprising that we see an increase in reported hate crimes today. Corrosive white supremacists are tearing away at the fabric of our nation and without question they are using online platforms to recruit new members, activate followers, target communities, organize rallies, stream their murders and incite violence. Instead of hiding under hoods they now organize behind computer screens.

They sought to re-brand themselves employing new labels to become more palatable to broader audiences but regardless of what you call them; the alt right, neo Nazi, the KKK, the Proud Boys, all pose the same threat today. What must we do now? As we continue to use aggressive lawyering strategies to move towards a society that’s true to it’s democratic ideals we call on all communities to help tear down the structures that facilitate violent white supremacy in our country. The banks that facilitate commercial transactions, the tech companies that provide open platforms, the web hosts that prop up these sites are all part of the infrastructure that feeds hate that must be dismantled. Congress must study and consider new laws for combating this online threat and the federal government must abandon policies that fuel hate…”

Then the chairman began the questioning section (58:35) by asking Eileen Hershonov if they “or anybody else manipulating statistics to increase the apparent prevalence of white nationalist hate crimes as was stated by one of the witnesses?”

She answered, “No Mr. Chairman. The ADL is data driven and we have defined and in the reports submitted to you we go through the details of right wing extremism. Right wing extremism last year was responsible for all but one of the 50 domestic extremists murders.” which may make one wonder if the Las Vegas shooting was last year or the year before, because the Las Vegas shooter was a registered democrat as was James T. Hodgkinson (congressional baseball game shooter).

She went on to cite more stats and said that the New Zealand shooter used Gab and 8chan but failed to mention that he used Facebook to, among other things, livestream his terrorist attack.

At 1:01:03, the chairman asks Ms Clarke a question giving her an opportunity to call for more censorship and more efforts by the government to combat what she calls hate. She then says they are “deeply concerned about the FBI’s black identity extremist designation. This is mere distraction from the very real threat of white supremacy that we face today.”

Chairman Nadler asks why that is a distraction.

Clarke answers, “Because it is not real. It is not a real threat. It hearkens back to the dark days of our federal government abusing its power to go after civil rights activists during the heyday of the civil rights movement. There is no such thing as black identity extremism. Again this is mere distraction to take the public’s attention and the government’s resources away from white supremacy and white nationalism which are the real threats that we’re up against today.

Representative Collins from Georgia (at 1:03:55) reiterates his condemnation of hate. He then asks Potts about the use of AI to stop hate on social media in a way that made it seem that he is in favor of it. But then he expresses concern about how “hate speech” is/will be defined, noting that what is hate speech to some is not hate speech for others but that they are in agreement when it comes to white nationalism.

He then (at 1:07:10) asks Candace Owens in a rather jumbled way that is difficult to paraphrase how being a victim of hate affects her view as she goes forward and the issues that she wanted to address at the hearing.

She answers (1:07:26) that when she was in high school she “received a slew of messages from the Democrat governor of Connecticut’s son Mr. Dannel Malloy and at the time he was the mayor of Stanford and his son along with 3 other boys referred to me as the N word, threatened to tar and feather my family and put a bullet in the back of my head like “they” did to Martin Luther King.

It’s a story that’s not often spoken about because the media has no interest in telling the truth about how it’s formed my views towards conservatism. Media turned it into a firestorm and it became a political tool for people to gain power. The NAACP used me at that time which was to meet me outside the school with cameras in tow to speak out against the crimes. Of course now I’m older and I realize that that’s really just a fund raising mechanism and that a lot of these groups survive because they cannot have the problem fixed ever. The NAACP never wants racism to go away.”

She then said that all she wanted was an apology and not to have the boys labelled racists and she said that our society is obsessed with (rather than accept apologies) labeling people as being racist. She noted that it negatively impacted her as the victim, that she prefers to not think of herself as a victim and victimhood culture is not wise.

Rep. Jackson Lee from Texas (1:09:25) asks some rhetorical questions to Hershonov, and Salha that are just not interesting enough to mention and then asks Paterson to repeat what she already said about Jefferson’s characterization of blacks before asking her is these themes have been carried forth through history to which Paterson answers in the affirmative. She then asks PottsWalden and Clarke what can be done to censor social media more. Their answers are just restatements of what they said earlier.

As chairman Nadler bangs his gavel to indicate her time is up, Jackson holds up a large photo of a burning church and says, “Thank you Mr. chairman, thank you. Burning churches. Thank you.”

The chairman recognizes the representative from Ohio, Chabot who denounces white supremacy, hate, etc. and asks Owens about her going from being a liberal and being pro choice to being conservative and pro life as well as the blexit movement. She answers (1:16:05) that she launched the blexit movement, the black exit from the Democrat party because, she says, the Democrat party does not work for the best interests of blacks. She notes the hate and racism towards her coming from the Democrats and the media and that these things are said to other black conservatives and blacks who change from liberal to conservative and from being pro choice to pro life. She then says that the Southern Strategy and the Southern Switch are myths and that they never happened.

Chabot then asked Klein what he wanted to say before (the chairman claimed) his time was up. Klein (1:18:19) talked about how some Democrats defended Ilhan Omar saying that she is not an antisemite, that there were no consequences such as being thrown off a committee. He called for an investigation of the Students for Justice in Palestine and the BDS for terrorist connections and to demand that university leaders condemn SJP hate groups and do so by name which he says they do not do. He called for universities to suspend and expel students who “commit these terrible actions against Jewish people”. He said that Title 6 should be invoked and that they should lose federal funding, “if they do not do the right thing when it comes to antisemitic bigotry and finally we should be having consequences for members of congress who make hateful and outrageous comments against blacks, Muslims or Jews and when it comes to Jews we have not seen that.

Chabot then asked Klein about Beto O’Rourke’s comments about Netanyahu to which Klein answered that Beto called Netenyahu a racist and said that this was ridiculous, outrageous and despicable.

Rep. Cohen from Tennessee is recognized at about 1:20:30 and he talked about a “fire just outside of Knoxville” about a week or 10 days prior in whcih the Highlander Research Education Center was burnt and he said that white supremacists symbols were found…

MORE TO COME (if I have the time)





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